tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.comments2023-12-05T03:34:14.680-05:00<b>Issa's Untidy Hut</b>Issa's Untidy Huthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comBlogger5869125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-39162374916602938672016-11-02T10:57:51.249-04:002016-11-02T10:57:51.249-04:00I've been meaning to see this but just haven&#...I've been meaning to see this but just haven't yet. Thanks for the reminder, Dave. Something I need to do. Also, I understand his new album is excellent. DonIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-61338181772176604352016-11-02T10:56:18.498-04:002016-11-02T10:56:18.498-04:00Thanks so much for your thoughts, Lyle. I really l...Thanks so much for your thoughts, Lyle. I really love Bly's rendering, I used it in a haiku workshop I did a number of years back that featured a number of translations. Those of us who don't know Japanese are left with the translations to ferret through. I have felt that the more translations/renderings I have, the closer I get to the poet (poem). Probably fooling myself, but with the ambiguity of Japanese grammar - plurals, verb tense, and lack of gender designation - there is much room for interpretative rendering. <br /><br />Ironically, all these weeks later and as I type this, Leonard Cohen is on the stereo.Issa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-66379783191797700402016-11-02T10:49:39.962-04:002016-11-02T10:49:39.962-04:00Michael, thanks so much for this. Interestingly, I...Michael, thanks so much for this. Interestingly, I just ran across the Shiki attribution in a Stephen Aldiss translation in <a href="http://www.shambhala.com/the-art-of-haiku.html" rel="nofollow"> The Art of Haiku</a> this morning. Issa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-52382681439204097992016-09-08T09:08:26.551-04:002016-09-08T09:08:26.551-04:00Don, you must have seen/heard Cave in Hell or High...Don, you must have seen/heard Cave in Hell or High Water? Credit for his score goes up early in the film and as you see the name and hear the score you know what you're hearing.Dave Thomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14254306930930841053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-35254148372746735512016-09-05T22:18:43.436-04:002016-09-05T22:18:43.436-04:00Just coming across this discussion now. The "...Just coming across this discussion now. The "two autumns" poem is definitely by Shiki, not Buson. I explore the misattribution at length at http://www.graceguts.com/essays/buson-or-shiki-two-autumns. The problem started with Blyth (although he later corrected himself), and was perpetuated by other translators, notably Henderson and Hass, among others. But the poem is definitely Shiki's.Michael Dylan Welchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08214697397072156227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-52905026734095315362016-09-04T22:21:00.010-04:002016-09-04T22:21:00.010-04:00Interesting about the second Basho poem here--that...Interesting about the second Basho poem here--that some translations say "piercing," more active and emphatic than "sinking." I don't know the original Japanese, and either translation seems intelligent.<br /><br />The first translation of this poem that I encountered, several decades ago, was by Robert Bly, in his anthology of tiny poems The Sea and the Honeycomb. Bly's version reads:<br /><br />The temple bell stops--<br />but the sound keeps coming<br />out of the flowers.<br /><br />So Bly has the sound moving in the opposite direction from the either of the translations you talk about here. I don't know the original Japanese, and I'm guessing that Bly's version is adapted from one or more previously existing English versions (rather than translated directly from Japanese).<br /><br />Not to wander too far from your post about Jane Reichold--but now your post has got me going. I'll need to see if I can find one or two other versions of the Basho poem here, and see what they do with it.<br /><br />As I type this, the news on public radio reports that Mother Teresa is now officially a saint. Frankly, I'd like to see Basho or Issa made a saint. I've seen at least a few poems by each of them over the years that seems to me to qualify as miracles.Lyle Daggetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10731915540520704368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-9718403775115134172016-09-01T12:47:39.733-04:002016-09-01T12:47:39.733-04:00Hughes is the best, the only thing to sayHughes is the best, the only thing to sayTerry M. Oneilhttp://relaxingspace.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-30482518646716639172016-08-31T14:27:55.842-04:002016-08-31T14:27:55.842-04:00Enjoyed theseEnjoyed theseBarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11437565950372872490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-67050175768322537762016-08-30T14:56:40.833-04:002016-08-30T14:56:40.833-04:00Dave, there are just so many Nick Cave cuts that a...Dave, there are just so many Nick Cave cuts that are superlative ... there's this one:<br /><br />http://lilliputreview.blogspot.com/2009/09/nick-cave-giving-world-another-spin.html<br /><br />And so many more... thanks for the compliment and engaging .... Don<br /><br />PS and yeah this one, which disappeared from the blog but still rips a wide one in anyone who thinks they can write rock and roll: <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jc0ib5Rh5sIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-63520349673948295122016-08-24T21:36:22.165-04:002016-08-24T21:36:22.165-04:00Imagine the thrilling noxious but intoxicating Red...Imagine the thrilling noxious but intoxicating Red Right Hand tune (and wanting it to go off in your head every 5 minutes for days) while being late to the mesmerizing Peaky Blinders three seasons, and then hearing Breathless, and wondering what band performed that joyful number - and then discovering it's the same lad who gave us Red Right Hand??!! Can't be! It is! With fat bunnies and bluebells? Nick Cave, you're not such a bad seed after all. I hear/see/feel the love of God for his created mankind: He's Who is in love with us, and breathless around us. Am I hyperbolizing? Not really - I think Cave wrote God's love song for us. (Not that he planned to or would own that interpretation. That's okay, it's what I hear that matters to me.) And now which of the two tunes will win my soul every five minutes? It's like fucking with the Peaky Blinders. And yes, tho 5 years late to the party, thanks very much for your terrific post.Dave Thomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14254306930930841053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-53384177778129661652016-08-09T00:45:14.213-04:002016-08-09T00:45:14.213-04:00heavens, such a tribute - will miss Jane
ayaz dar...heavens, such a tribute - will miss Jane <br />ayaz daryl nielsenAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14362522798786400961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-47326147371472440752016-08-08T21:45:27.634-04:002016-08-08T21:45:27.634-04:00Is it true, no comments. I've read through the...Is it true, no comments. I've read through the years some things that Jane had written, and I expect that I have been in some ways influenced by her and a few other modern writers...old pajamasold pajamashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10229885785933385293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-20943285335792442322016-08-07T06:12:01.312-04:002016-08-07T06:12:01.312-04:00Ah, thanks for that, Gilbert. I think you nailed i...Ah, thanks for that, Gilbert. I think you nailed it. DonIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-4316502510176199062016-08-07T06:07:40.197-04:002016-08-07T06:07:40.197-04:00Thanks, A. Great points. DonThanks, A. Great points. DonIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-33917361479738760632016-07-27T00:25:53.134-04:002016-07-27T00:25:53.134-04:00I've always loved the reference to "Is It...I've always loved the reference to "Is It In My Head" from Quadrophenia.<br /><br />is it in my head?<br />is it in my head?<br />is it in my head here at the start?<br />is it in my head?<br />is it in my head?<br />is it in my head or in my heart?Gilbert Pilzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07780921856469609693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-90870412073005493462016-07-17T07:06:04.408-04:002016-07-17T07:06:04.408-04:00Great post, great line!!
One of The Band's la...Great post, great line!!<br /><br />One of The Band's late songs - It Makes No Difference - may well prove to be their best. Rick Danko's incomparable voice and Garth Hudson's sax at the end (from The Last Waltz) being highlights, along with Levon Helm on drums and support vocals, and Robbie Robertson's brilliant songwriting / playing. (Pity he didn't include all the band on songwriting credits - did Danko in, for sure.)<br /><br />Lit reference? Only if you consider all the Literature dealing with the topic of unspoken love does the Lit Rock constraint apply.<br /><br />Still, a great song. Just thought I'd give it a very late plug.<br /><br />Cheers! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-83461384648237408382016-07-11T15:47:37.144-04:002016-07-11T15:47:37.144-04:00Well, 5 years later but it's a party no one ca...Well, 5 years later but it's a party no one can be late to. Thanks, A. Issa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-27134882341786437052016-06-22T11:17:41.625-04:002016-06-22T11:17:41.625-04:00Love'em all!Love'em all!Bartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-91811291568539937852016-06-22T09:30:16.769-04:002016-06-22T09:30:16.769-04:00Nice analysis. Thanks. If I may add some observati...Nice analysis. Thanks. If I may add some observations:<br /><br />As Cave often does, he's conflating God with a love interest. All the elements of nature that he identifies are breathless without God--they wouldn't exist; Cave would be breathless without the woman that he's singing about. Furthermore, his appreciation for nature is enabled/enhanced by the inspiration (another favorite Cave topic) that he get's from his lover. (See "There She Goes, My Beautiful World" for an extended paean to the muse.)<br /><br />It's kind of all wrapped up there in the chorus. He's telling the listener to calm themselves and see God's glory in everyday of nature, and he's using "still" in two senses, as an verb ("be still") telling his lover to calm herself, and as an adverb, as a means of declaring the persistence/continuation of both her beauty and his love for her (and between them) and, at the same time, his love for and reliance on nature/God. Simply masterful.<br /><br />There's a similar sort of earthly/divine conflation in "Lazarus Dig Yourself". Cave sings about Lazarus in his grave, hearing people praying for him above ground; Larry hears his parents fighting upstairs in his house, or at least some sort of commotion; and there's "definitely something going on upstairs", i.e., in heaven. <br /><br />Regarding the crazy flute jams in the song, I believe they're imitating the magpie's song--a very random warbling that resembles Chinese flutes--which is a common bird in Cave's native Australia. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-12451843643913565492016-06-19T14:56:46.138-04:002016-06-19T14:56:46.138-04:00Yes, A, yes, indeed ...Yes, A, yes, indeed ...Issa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-23165063390467849572016-05-21T06:01:08.516-04:002016-05-21T06:01:08.516-04:00The grittiness here in all three is very impressiv...The grittiness here in all three is very impressive. Another way of considering haiku. Congrats to all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-73150755478849926502016-04-16T06:44:49.224-04:002016-04-16T06:44:49.224-04:00Love the attention to sensory detail in these thre...Love the attention to sensory detail in these three.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-73611086209639028202016-04-14T19:19:52.823-04:002016-04-14T19:19:52.823-04:00Love these poems, Don. Thanks for bringing them to...Love these poems, Don. Thanks for bringing them to us. It is appreciated. <br />A bow to the poets and to you.<br /><br />Mary mary f.ahearnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-57171009590041292242016-04-14T13:22:49.072-04:002016-04-14T13:22:49.072-04:00Issa would be delighted and sip his tea noisily.
...Issa would be delighted and sip his tea noisily.<br /><br />Love that catterpiller - soft. Yes. <br /><br />Love the snow flowers. <br /><br />Love it all. Good work. <br />AliceAlice Folkarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06114004720371895150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-26604753687663507802016-04-14T09:21:49.657-04:002016-04-14T09:21:49.657-04:00Thanks so much, Patrick, for the poets and myself....Thanks so much, Patrick, for the poets and myself. DonIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.com