tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post3142255497029853531..comments2023-12-05T03:34:14.680-05:00Comments on <b>Issa's Untidy Hut</b>: Robinson Jeffers: Antiwar PoemsIssa's Untidy Huthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-84530698584425694292010-01-23T07:50:06.083-05:002010-01-23T07:50:06.083-05:00And you remember correctly ...And you remember correctly ...Issa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-86657950720465451742010-01-22T14:17:10.583-05:002010-01-22T14:17:10.583-05:00"the senses more than the MIND" as I rem..."the senses more than the MIND" as I remember.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-3361540337007003422009-01-13T06:19:00.000-05:002009-01-13T06:19:00.000-05:00David:Thanks very much for the insightful comment ...David:<BR/><BR/>Thanks very much for the insightful comment and your mild corrective as to Jeffers being a misanthrope. Your point is very well taken, indeed; Jeffers, Swift, Twain, and Vonnegut could only have been motivated by love, no matter how deep and vituperous their anger may have occasionally run. The statement about misanthropy was the hyperbole to which I referred. If I was so self aware, perhaps it might have been best left out altogether.<BR/><BR/>Thanks also for mentioning the oft anthologized, stellar <A HREF="http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/poems/1115.html" REL="nofollow">Shine, Pershing Republic."</A> For those unfamiliar with it, it may be seen as a companion piece to the other poems in this post and as one of great pieces of the 20th century American canon.<BR/><BR/>best,<BR/>DonIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-76891301819465474082009-01-12T17:12:00.000-05:002009-01-12T17:12:00.000-05:00Nice post.My name is David J. Rothman, and I'm the...Nice post.<BR/><BR/>My name is David J. Rothman, and I'm the current President of the Robinson Jeffers Association, Our annual meeting this year is in Boulder, Feb. 13-15, with Reg Saner as keynote.<BR/><BR/>Those interested in Jeffers war poems might want to take a look at James Shebl's "In This Troubled Water: The Suppressed Poems of RJ" for a history of the controversy that dogged his publication of them.<BR/><BR/>As for RJ being a misanthropist -- it's an understandable accusation. But I'd say that, like Swift, he responded as he did to humanity not because he hated it, but because his love for it wounded him so deeply that he just couldn't stand it. Hi "Inhumanism" is a response to pain engendered by care, not to hatred. This is the context in which he warns his sons, at the end of "Shine, Perishing Republic," to beware of love of man, a trap that, as he sees it, caught Christ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-5655556822327667342009-01-12T17:11:00.000-05:002009-01-12T17:11:00.000-05:00Nice post.My name is David J. Rothman, and I'm the...Nice post.<BR/><BR/>My name is David J. Rothman, and I'm the current President of the Robinson Jeffers Association, Our annual meeting this year is in Boulder, Feb. 13-15, with Reg Saner as keynote.<BR/><BR/>Those interested in Jeffers war poems might want to take a look at James Shebl's "In This Troubled Water: The Suppressed Poems of RJ" for a history of the controversy that dogged his publication of them.<BR/><BR/>As for RJ being a misanthropist -- it's an understandable accusation. But I'd say that, like Swift, he responded as he did to humanity not because he hated it, but because his love for it wounded him so deeply that he just couldn't stand it. Hi "Inhumanism" is a response to pain engendered by care, not to hatred. This is the context in which he warns his sons, at the end of "Shine, Perishing Republic," to beware of love of man, a trap that, as he sees it, caught Christ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-18059006770457529212009-01-11T12:53:00.000-05:002009-01-11T12:53:00.000-05:00Excellent. I have a bit of Jeffers in me, I think...Excellent. I have a bit of Jeffers in me, I think. The world of nature has steadily become more important to me as I've aged. The beauty of nature. And of humanity? No so much.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-20371352963075490072009-01-11T12:02:00.000-05:002009-01-11T12:02:00.000-05:00I have an huge book A Modest Proposal hand done ...I have an huge book A Modest Proposal hand done AND illustrated by Leonard Baskin...<BR/>.. Grossman NYC 1969<BR/>and,<BR/><BR/> think that Swift in presenting this "solution" to that famine IS in the same "ballpark" as that Basho <BR/><BR/>happenstance/ploy!<BR/><BR/><BR/>and ,,, I got this copy (as I recall)from a Barnes & Noble $3 and under table in 1970 (or so)<BR/><BR/><BR/>maybe I should "google" this and see "whatz-it-wort-h"?<BR/><BR/>http://www.arcanabooks.com/bookimages/014029.jpgEd Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.com