tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post6465804750254469670..comments2023-12-05T03:34:14.680-05:00Comments on <b>Issa's Untidy Hut</b>: Take This Waltz : Issa's Sunday Service, #90Issa's Untidy Huthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-38671457938061873332011-03-19T07:26:38.283-04:002011-03-19T07:26:38.283-04:00David:
You are very welcome. Your poem is one of...David:<br /><br />You are very welcome. Your poem is one of my very favorite from Lilliput ...<br /><br />best,<br />DonIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-43096484099328782762011-03-19T02:51:47.161-04:002011-03-19T02:51:47.161-04:00Don,
I just saw this entry today. Thanks for fea...Don,<br /><br />I just saw this entry today. Thanks for featuring my little ditty.David Rosenthalhttp://users.lmi.net/rosen4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-46843966801821107112011-03-05T06:40:49.655-05:002011-03-05T06:40:49.655-05:00Keddy:
So great to hear (and feel) those words - ...Keddy:<br /><br />So great to hear (and feel) those words - "lots of light is coming in" - the pure unadulterated joy and wonder of the artist.<br /><br />What you are doing is what we all dream retirement will be and so many of us never achieve.<br /><br />Ride the (light) waves!<br /><br />DonIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-23180044598341539862011-03-03T22:10:41.081-05:002011-03-03T22:10:41.081-05:00I'm late reading this on Google Reader, but re...I'm late reading this on Google Reader, but really appreciated the Leonard Cohen links supplied in the Comments. I first heard of Leonard Cohen in 1968 as a freshwoman student st SUNY Plattsburgh (very near Montreal) when the college had a showing of the 1965 film, Ladies and Gentleman, Mr. Leonard Cohen. From then on, I've worn out his records and discs, etc. In fact for the rest of that academic year, I couldn't sleep at night if I didn't play his first record as a my personal lulluby suite. Take This Waltz is one of his works of art I could drive everyone in hearing distance crazy with, playing it over and over. Ay, ay, ay, ay! <br /><br />Thanx also, Don - for your comment on my blog about being an artist -- but really, only in retirement have I really hit my stride. Guess retirement is the big crack I needed (I don't have to pass for normal anymore!), and lots of light is coming in, to put a LC spin on it. <br /><br />Good job, Don - I continue to be amazed at all that you do!LoneStarLibrarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082939836052122740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-22034788629704814912011-02-14T12:09:39.190-05:002011-02-14T12:09:39.190-05:00Had a feeling it was a reprint of the first you ha...Had a feeling it was a reprint of the first you have ... facsimile no doubt doesn't do justice to the original - for those counting the pennies it is an option.<br /><br />Thanks for all the detail, Ed - as I'm sure you know, I <i>love</i> it.Issa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-91037869852809916972011-02-14T09:57:49.367-05:002011-02-14T09:57:49.367-05:00and more about the Picasso/Gongora ..... book.
...and more about the Picasso/Gongora ..... book. <br /><br />http://www.callejadelasflores.org/?p=9656<br /><br />maybe Lyle can translate this article - when he has less time?<br /><br />apologies for taking up so much time with this....<br />however<br /><br />time has of yet & has NEVER stopped me from;Ed Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-8484440086418271832011-02-14T09:52:11.602-05:002011-02-14T09:52:11.602-05:00here is the edition that I have
http://www.amazon....here is the edition that I have<br />http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gongora-Pablo-Picasso/dp/0807611336<br /><br />except I have the (original) cover-wrap...<br /><br />pristineEd Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-74899825560972976672011-02-14T09:41:10.226-05:002011-02-14T09:41:10.226-05:00NO. That's not it.... My edition must be to o...NO. That's not it.... My edition must be to original <br /><br />published in 1985 NOT 2007.<br /><br />the edition that I have is hard-back and a red-cloth hardback with the front of cover wrap a Picasso image side facial of a girl/woman with beyond-the-shoulder length black hair...and on the back cover-wrap in Picasso's hand/brush "gongora"<br /><br />the book that I have measures 11 1/2 " X 15"<br /><br />that drawing that is on cover of the book that you found (not sure of it s size) has drawing by Picasso of Gongora (Luis De Gongora Y Argot) as cover image but in book that I have that image is inside<br /><br />just before the first poem (which is in Picasso's hand , then Trueblood's translation..<br /><br />all pretty-much filling the entire 8 1/2 x 11 page.<br /><br />NOW<br /><br />the editions that you found just might have inside e the entirety of what I have but at a smaller size.<br /><br />Mi "thing" has only one date (1985) on the copyright page with <br /><br />"Poetry Translation (c) 1985 by Alan S. Trueblood"<br /><br />so, My guess is that that I have is a first edition. AND, dig this it looks brand new!<br /><br />HEY wait a sec...<br /><br />lots more info on bottom of this page:<br /><br />the Original in spanish version published in Paris, 1948 here will copy out all as it is very (to me) interestingly important:<br /><br /> " Originally published: Paris: Les Grands Peintres Modernes et le Livre, 1948<br /><br />The publisher is grateful to Maya Picasso-Widmaier for permission to use copy no. 227 of GONGORA for reproduction.<br /><br />Reproduced and printed by Pera Druck in Mucich, West Germany and bound by Sigloch Buchbinderei in Kunzelsau, West Germany<br />Designed by Laurie H. Rippon<br /><br /> First Edition"<br /><br />so: Picasso's daughter had Picasso's copy of this book and gave it over to George Baraziller to make the book! (I guess) a facsimile of Picasso's original with the Spanish (Gongora) translated by Trueblood<br /><br /><br />HELL<br /><br />,that's getting pretty damn close to the source!<br /><br /><br />"Library of Congress Cataloging in Publication Data"<br />has<br /><br />(.....)<br />ISBN 0-8076-1133-6"<br /><br />now a bit more<br /><br />Picasso's daughter ALSO had another BIG book of her father's work done...trimmed to 11 1/2 x 14,,<br /><br />via PRESTEL :<br /><br /><br />" PICASSO "Art Can Only Be Erotic" "<br /><br />well,<br /><br />neither kindle nor amazon nor any computer or hand-hel electronic pad can replicate either one of these REAL books..<br /><br />might as well take these devices an ..."shove 'em"!<br /><br /><br /><br />K.-sanEd Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-40247505493542660832011-02-14T07:19:53.128-05:002011-02-14T07:19:53.128-05:00Ed:
Perhaps these Gongoras are reprints - prett...Ed: <br /><br />Perhaps <a href="http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=picasso&sortby=17&sts=t&tn=gongora&x=0&y=0" rel="nofollow">these Gongoras</a> are reprints - pretty reasonable prices if this is the one you are talking about.<br /><br />DonIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-19043763845873418152011-02-14T07:16:08.850-05:002011-02-14T07:16:08.850-05:00Lyle:
I haven't been able to attribute the Ga...Lyle:<br /><br />I haven't been able to attribute the Garcia Lorca translations, though they seem to be everywhere on the net. I will dig around in my Lorca books on hand and see if I can up with it.<br /><br />Kokkie-san:<br /><br />As always, the big picture is in the smallest details. Thanks for the (con)text and tip. <br /><br />I find everything cheaper on abebooks than amazon ... usually.<br /><br />DonIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-76693936543818671772011-02-14T00:43:54.759-05:002011-02-14T00:43:54.759-05:00try to find yourself a copy of that huge book - a ...try to find yourself a copy of that huge book - a repro<br /> of Picasso's artist's book GONGORA<br /><br />translations by Alan Trueblood in its physical size it s a big book<br /><br />done 1985 by George Barziller Inc. New York<br /><br /><br />the poems done in Picasso's hand and the drawings<br /><br />the poems translated by Trueblood....<br /><br />add this to your "Lorca" much as (I would guess) Lorca added "Gongora" to his .....'stash'<br /><br />just as you "cut your teeth" on Lorca / Lorca cut his on Gongora.<br /><br />I got this ex-library copy a hard-bound.. for as I recall about two years ago off of the net for about $15.00! plus $6 s & h<br /><br />Gongora was a contemporary of El Greco <br /><br />Picasso adds b & w drawings/sketches:<br /> "black hair on a white page"<br /><br />(one of these days I'll read this Gongora-Picasso-Trueblood book<br /><br />far beyond Russell's fine intro and deep into the<br />story<br /><br />"To A Girl Picking Flowers" ... seems (to me) that "she" (for Gongora) is Cloris... <br /><br /><br />Kokkie-san<br /><br />pee est:<br />seems to me though I haven't looked at amazon for this book that amazon has been raising their prices for "real" books and pushing at a high price things delivered via something called a "kindle"<br /><br />I think "kindle" is a device that is like a big cell-phone that you can read on a screen while driving down Highway 101 at 80 miles per hour<br /><br />all of the kids are doing it ... and crashing and wrecking their brains while their computers are writing their papers.... automatically.<br /><br />Kokkie-sanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-33527378619875969362011-02-13T22:32:42.644-05:002011-02-13T22:32:42.644-05:00Lorca's poetry has been deeply important to me...Lorca's poetry has been deeply important to me since early in my poet life. His poems have an impeccable geometry -- the only thing similar I've found are some of the poems I've read (in translation) by Hafiz (or Hafez) and a few of the Arabic poets of southern Spain in the middle ages (whose work Lorca read much in translation, the Arabic Andalusian work at least). I've learned much by making attempts at translating Lorca now and then over the years.<br /><br />I'm curious, who did the translations you've given here of "Debussy" and "Sonnet"?Lyle Daggetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10731915540520704368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-70978280865782184852011-02-13T15:40:18.259-05:002011-02-13T15:40:18.259-05:00HEY thanks...
will forward this the pauline/Fay ...HEY thanks...<br /><br />will forward this the pauline/Fay she was there in Lindos too...<br />and<br />that IS Leonard as I recall him boy, were we skinny...and "cool" He owned that house on Hydra?<br /><br />I almost took out a 99 year lease on the house that we were renting for as I recall for $30 per month.<br /><br />that guitar that you see in the photo... at the table I betcha it was the same one that he brought with him over to Lindos.<br /><br />YOU KNOW WHO ELSE besides me and Jack Gilbert, and Pauline, and Willard & Mavis Manus was there waiting things out in The Dodecanese Islands ?<br /> Robert Lax!<br /><br />CHECK OUT WILLARD MANUS' book about much of this that wentr on in Lindos..<br /><br />I think the book is called Dancing on the Tables.<br /><br />I reconnected with Willard a year or so ago he is now living in LA writing plays!Ed Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-84159491005425819312011-02-13T15:16:44.543-05:002011-02-13T15:16:44.543-05:00Hey, Ed:
Thanks for the notes. Glad, as always...Hey, Ed: <br /><br />Thanks for the notes. Glad, as always, to see a connection - the Lorca, your daughter in the Lorca piece, Cohen and Greece and Gilbert.<br /><br />It all dovetails, known and unknown.<br /><br />Don't know if you've seen this piece, but, since its you and me today, it deals with Cohen in Greece in the 60s.<br /><br />http://www.greecetravel.com/matt-blog/2009-11-5.htm<br /><br />And here's a few more details:<br /><br />http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/hydra2.html<br /><br />Ciao ...<br /><br />DonIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-73246889150925281962011-02-13T12:15:43.948-05:002011-02-13T12:15:43.948-05:00Here is something re: that Lorca piece that Furia ...Here is something re: that Lorca piece that Furia Flamenca does this performance was at The Kennedy Center:<br /><br />http://dcflamenco.com/blog/2010/10/10/furia-flamencas-lorca-flamenco-poetry-at-the-millennium-stage-october-10-2010/<br /><br />second page photo one-up from the bottom<br />the VERY CUTE red-head on the lft... that's my daughter..<br /><br />and of course as you might have surmised<br /><br />I taught her how to dance !Ed Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-90265449264851560882011-02-13T11:56:13.817-05:002011-02-13T11:56:13.817-05:00pee est
Leonard Cohen was living for a time on I t...pee est<br />Leonard Cohen was living for a time on I think it was <br /><br />(I forget which Island) which was not too far from Rhodes soooo he came over to Rhodes to Lindos where I was living spent a cpl days there (Jack Gilbert was also there) so we-all "hung out" for a bit.<br />Pretty sure that he came to Lindos to visit with Jack as, he sure as hell didn't come to see me... besides, I was more interested in Pauline/Fay then him...or Jack.<br />as I recall he was with a cute blond girl I don't remember her name. Leonard sang some songs at various places in Lindos that later became in SONGS OF A ROOM <br /> (just went to my stash of records/albums/cds to see which album because I didn't recall it s title &<br /><br />I also just found that TAKE THIS WALTZ is on the c-d<br /> I'm Your Man<br /><br /><br />Cohen is "something else again" picture/photo of him on the c-d eating a banana.... I betchuh he got it offn Basho's Banana Tree!Ed Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5849270578857708223.post-43710569659073515762011-02-13T11:27:49.619-05:002011-02-13T11:27:49.619-05:00my daughter's flamenco troupe is performing th...my daughter's flamenco troupe is performing their Lorca piece end of this month..<br /><br />http://www.furia-flamenca.com/performances.cfm<br /><br />they are doing the entire piece... about 50 mins.. I've seen it a cpl of times..<br /> it is a Lorca piece the poem about a bull-fighter ..<br /><br />VERY EXCITING performance<br /> just as, for me Lorca's work is EXCITING<br /><br /><br />I was escorted off of a train in Spain in 1968 for openly reading Lorca's Poet In New York that<br /> Ben Belitt translation.<br /><br /><br />think I'll re-read it today. Poet in New York one of the very few books I've ever marked up / written notes in...<br /><br />especially marked-up: The King of Harlem<br /><br />"seek out the great sun of the center"<br /><br />and<br /><br />" and assuredly dance out the dance <br />while the flower-stems stiffen<br />and murder our Moses - almost into bulrushes' heaven."<br /><br />not sure what "it" means, nor does it/did it matter...<br /><br />I inhaled these rhythms imitated them (for a moment) & then moved on...<br /><br />now,<br />back to re:read your post<br />&<br />pay attention to't.<br /><br /><br />K.Ed Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.com